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Mike Phillips 06-25-2014 04:56 PM

Sign-up: How to Wetsand & Buff a 1960 Glastron Fireflight
 
Sign-up: How to Wetsand & Buff a 1960 Glastron Fireflight



http://www.marine31online.com/galler...t_Sand_022.jpg


This is a doozy!


John Greviskis just had the top and bottom of a 1960 Glastron Fireflight re-gel-coated. Not re-painted but this but is being fully restored and a part of the restoration process is to re-apply gel-coat to the exterior instead of paint because the gel-coat will be THICKER and hold up to abuse a lot better than a paint job. We have a very rare opportunity coming up to wetsand, cut and buff a 1960 Glastron Fireflight for his TV show, Ship Shape TV.

He is in the middle of completely restoring this 1960 Glastron which has FINS just like a 1957 Chevy.


Gel-Coat Finishing Work
The gel-coat needs to be sanded and buffed and we're going to show how to do this for a segment on Ship Shape TV.



Date and Time
Thursday August 28th starting around 2:00pm and going to 9:00pm.

Note: It's very possible we could start this project in the morning depending upon how many people are attending. So keep that in mind.




VERY RARE OPPORTUNITY
If you've ever wanted to learn how to wetsand, cut and buff a boat then start clearing your schedule so you can be here.

These types of projects are very RARE. I'll send someone a free bottle of Marine 31 Gel-Coat Carnauba Wax + Sealant if they can show ANYWHERE on the Internet where the public has been invited to help wetsand, cut and buff a boat restoration project like this not including the classes I've already taught.



Sign-up List

1. Mike Phillips - Of course I'll be here!
2. professionalpolishing
3. Antti
4. Frank
5. Den
6. Barry
7. Chris
8. Rick - From ChrisCraftCataline.com
9. Kajunstick
10. John
11. Craig
12. Dave
13. Stephen
14. Rick Mennine
15. Paul






Date: Thursday August 28th 2014
Time: 2:00pm to 9:00pm

Marine 31 Boat Shop
7744 SW Jack James Drive
Stuart, FL 34997
Mapquest Driving Directions



Topics Covered
  1. How to hand sand
  2. How to machine sand
  3. How to use a rotary bufer with a wool pad
  4. How to use a Flex 3401 with a foam pad
  5. How to use the Rupes Bigfoot 21 with a foam pad
  6. How to machine wax and seal gel-coat
NOTE: The boat below is NOT the boat we're going to be working on, it's one I found on the Internet until I can get pictures of the actual boat. It's to give people an idea of what a 1960 Glastron Fireflight looks like and the FINS that were iconic to runabout ski boats built in the 1950's and 1960's.

http://www.marine31online.com/galler...flight_001.jpg

http://www.marine31online.com/galler...flight_002.JPG

http://www.marine31online.com/galler...flight_003.jpg

http://www.marine31online.com/galler...flight_004.jpg


John Greviskis told me there's a resurgence in restoring classic fiberglas boat and this means there is an increase in the technique of RE-Gel-coating boats instead of painting them.

The other side of the coin is after the boats are re-gel-coated they need to be wet sanded, cut and buffed.

We're going to show how to hand sand and machine sand the new gel-coat on this 1960 Glastron Fireflight using 5" sanding discs from Rupes and compounds, polishes and waxes from Marine 31.

There's no other place in the United States and probably the world where the public, that is our forum members will be invited to be a part of this project.

So this is a rare opportunity indeed.

If you've ever wanted to learn how to wetsand, cut and buff gel-coat boats then clear your schedule to be here the last week of August and get signed up for this event :)

denis ware 06-25-2014 10:25 PM

Re: Sign-up: How to wetsand, cut and buff a boat class
 
Hey Mike, When can you gives us a definite date, so i can book the flight, i just check for those two days not many left. thanks

Mike Phillips 06-26-2014 08:05 AM

Re: Sign-up: How to wetsand, cut and buff a boat class
 
For those reading this that might not know what the fins on a 1957 Chevy look like here's my buddy Tim's 1957 Chevy that we did an extreme makeover to a few years ago....


1957 Chevy Extreme Makeover - Pictures & Videos

http://www.autogeekonline.net/galler...57Chevy002.jpg

http://www.autogeekonline.net/galler...57Chevy017.jpg



http://www.autogeekonline.net/galler...57Chevy003.jpg


Pretty cool....


:D

Mike Phillips 06-26-2014 10:22 AM

Re: Sign-up: How to wetsand, cut and buff a boat class
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denis ware (Post 737)

Hey Mike, When can you gives us a definite date, so i can book the flight, i just check for those two days not many left. thanks

I talked to John about his just yesterday and we picked the week but not the exact dates.

I'll double check with him today and try to confirm one of these days.

Wednesday, August 27th
Thursday, August 28th


Here's the deal...

We're going to show the techniques, products and tools for one segment which of course will show this boat in the BEFORE condition.

Then in the show you will see us working on the boat.

The next segment will show the boat done, restored and on a boat trailer. This will be weeks if not months down the road.

So I really only see us needing one day for the TV shoot here at Marine 31 and then that night, "we", that would be you and I and the team of guys that want to be a part of this, will finish the entire boat that same night.

I normally do my extreme makeover and tech session projects on Thursday nights as you know when you joined us for the last project.

1966 Blown Nova - Extreme Makeover - Pictures & Videos



So if we follow normal protocols that means I'm going to try to set this up for Thursday, August 28th.

I just left a voice mail for John Greviskis so hang on till I hear back from him.


:)

Mike Phillips 06-30-2014 11:34 AM

Re: Sign-up: How to Wetsand & Buff a 1960 Glastron Fireflight
 
***Update****


Spoke with Bob, the President and CEO of Marine 31 and John Greviskis the host of Ship Shape TV and have confirmed with their schedules the dates for this project.

We will be machine sanding and then cutting and buffing the 1960 Glastron Fireflight on,

Date: Thursday, August 28th
Time: 2:00pm to 9:00pm
Location: Marine 31 Detail Shop


We will tentatively start the sanding step at approximately 2:00pm and continue till the project is completed. This means we'll be finishing around 9:00pm on Thursday night.



Flying in to West Palm Beach
West Palm Beach is the closest airport to Stuart, Florida. The airport code for West Palm Beach is PBI

I have three guys that are purchasing air line tickets to fly into West Palm Beach International Airport for this project. To these guys and anyone else, you want to fly into PBI the morning of Thursday, August 28th or the day before.




Where to stay
The Marriott Courtyard is just a few blocks away from the Marine 31 ship

Courtyard Stuart
7615 SW Lost River Road
Stuart, Florida 34997


Marriott Courtyard in Stuart, Florida


This is a very nice hotel with an excellent lounge and restaurant inside the building and they actually have some pretty good food.


http://www.marine31online.com/galler...lorida_001.jpg

http://www.marine31online.com/galler...lorida_002.jpg

http://www.marine31online.com/galler...lorida_003.jpg

http://www.marine31online.com/galler...lorida_004.jpg

http://www.marine31online.com/galler...lorida_005.jpg



:)

Mike Phillips 06-30-2014 11:47 AM

Re: Sign-up: How to Wetsand & Buff a 1960 Glastron Fireflight
 
This last Saturday the Ship Shape TV show with the 1960 Glastron Fireflight being sprayed with new Gel-Coat aired on Fox Sports.

I took some pictures using my iPhone to share the progression of this project. I apologize for the small pictures, best I can do when using a phone to take pictures of Ship Shape on TV.


Here's the boat before the top was separated from the lower hull.

http://www.marine31online.com/galler...t_Sand_002.jpg

http://www.marine31online.com/galler...t_Sand_003.jpg

http://www.marine31online.com/galler...t_Sand_004.jpg


John and Jeff discussion the process to re-gel-coat a boat.

http://www.marine31online.com/galler...t_Sand_005.jpg

http://www.marine31online.com/galler...t_Sand_006.jpg

http://www.marine31online.com/galler...t_Sand_007.jpg



The floor was rebuilt with new stringers installed.

http://www.marine31online.com/galler...t_Sand_008.jpg


Here you see the top cap is completely oxidized and worn out...

http://www.marine31online.com/galler...t_Sand_011.jpg

http://www.marine31online.com/galler...t_Sand_012.jpg



Here's the hull upside down on a trailer to make it easier to work on after the hull and top cap were separated.

http://www.marine31online.com/galler...t_Sand_009.jpg



Here's the hull being moved off the boat trailer and onto some work dollies.

http://www.marine31online.com/galler...t_Sand_010.jpg




Here's John talking with Rick Hop from Fiberglass Coatings, Inc on the spray gun that is used to shoot gel-coat...

http://www.marine31online.com/galler...t_Sand_021.jpg

http://www.marine31online.com/galler...t_Sand_013.jpg

http://www.marine31online.com/galler...t_Sand_014.jpg


Here's new gel-coat being sprayed onto the hull...

http://www.marine31online.com/galler...t_Sand_015.jpg

http://www.marine31online.com/galler...t_Sand_016.jpg




Here's the top cap being sprayed using gel-coat that has been pigmented to match the green color that came on a 1957 Chevy...

http://www.marine31online.com/galler...t_Sand_017.jpg

http://www.marine31online.com/galler...t_Sand_018.jpg

http://www.marine31online.com/galler...t_Sand_019.jpg


And this is how this episode ends. John Greviskis closes the show by saying the next step will be to wet sand, cut and buff the hull with yours truly here at Marine 31.

So if you want to be a part of this project then get signed up.


:)

professionalpolishing 06-30-2014 12:46 PM

Re: Sign-up: How to Wetsand & Buff a 1960 Glastron Fireflight
 
Sign me up! Let me know if you need anything from me, and I know someone wants to let me crash at their pad for the night, right?!

Chris@AutoCleanse 06-30-2014 01:07 PM

Re: Sign-up: How to Wetsand & Buff a 1960 Glastron Fireflight
 
Sign me up please.

Mike Phillips 06-30-2014 01:08 PM

Re: Sign-up: How to Wetsand & Buff a 1960 Glastron Fireflight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by professionalpolishing (Post 747)

Sign me up!



You're on the list...


:thumb:

antti@561detailing 06-30-2014 02:21 PM

Re: Sign-up: How to Wetsand & Buff a 1960 Glastron Fireflight
 
Sign me up.

ScarabEpic22 06-30-2014 02:22 PM

Re: Sign-up: How to Wetsand & Buff a 1960 Glastron Fireflight
 
Mike- I appreciate you and Marine 31 making this type of opportunity available to the public.

I know I'm new here, but I'm definitely interested in trying to make this...trying to see how flights from Seattle would work out. Might be one of those "once-in-a-lifetime" opportunities. I'm going to look over the next week or so and figure this out, if I can make it I'll send you a PM directly.


(Side note, my initial order of Marine 31 products are still in the mail and will be here tomorrow!:partyguy: Excited to start compounding/polishing/waxing my boats.)

Mike Phillips 06-30-2014 03:42 PM

Re: Sign-up: How to Wetsand & Buff a 1960 Glastron Fireflight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScarabEpic22 (Post 753)

Mike- I appreciate you and Marine 31 making this type of opportunity available to the public.

No problemo...

I've been in this industry all of my working life and I've never seen any other company offer boat detailing classes like our boat detailing classes.

2013 Marine 31 Year in Review - The boats of Marine31Online.com



Quote:

Originally Posted by ScarabEpic22 (Post 753)

I know I'm new here, but I'm definitely interested in trying to make this...trying to see how flights from Seattle would work out.

Might be one of those "once-in-a-lifetime" opportunities.


If not a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity then very rare opportunity indeed.


John told me there's a lot of interest in this topic for a couple of reasons,

1. Growing segment of the boat hobby to restore classic boats and painting a restored boat won't be as durable as re-gel-coating the boat.

2. Very little to zero information available on how to do machine wetsanding of gel-coat boats and also very little info available on correct buffing techniques for restoration projects like this. To be honest I've never seen boat detailing classes offered anywhere else except here at Marine 31.


Quote:

Originally Posted by ScarabEpic22 (Post 753)


I'm going to look over the next week or so and figure this out, if I can make it I'll send you a PM directly.

Sounds good and good luck with the airline tickets.


:thumb:

Mike Phillips 06-30-2014 04:25 PM

Re: Sign-up: How to wetsand, cut and buff a boat class
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denis ware (Post 737)
Hey Mike, When can you gives us a definite date, so i can book the flight, i just check for those two days not many left. thanks


Thursday, August 28th

Normally I start these classes at 5:00pm and go to around 9:00pm to 10:00pm depending upon how many people attend, how bad the boat is and how big the boat is.


Because this project will be shown on Ship Shape TV a few weeks after we do the work on the project it's important to have enough time to do the job right without rushing.

For these reasons I'm going to plan on starting this project at 9:00am

I don't want to cut our selves short plus this way there's plenty of hands-on time for everyone that attends.

There's no substitute for hands-on experience. At our last boat detailing project we had a young man by the name John all the way from his home country of India attend our class to learn these skills.

http://www.marine31online.com/galler...a_To_India.jpg


How to wetsand, cut and buff a gel-coat boat


John machine wetsanding the side of a boat hull using the Rupes Duetto with Rupes #3000 grit sanding discs.
http://www.marine31online.com/galler...t_Boat_009.jpg

http://www.marine31online.com/galler...t_Boat_010.jpg




So clear your schedule and make your travel arrangements to be here on August 28th.



:)

Mike Phillips 06-30-2014 04:28 PM

Re: Sign-up: How to Wetsand & Buff a 1960 Glastron Fireflight
 
Meet & Greet at the Marriott
The Wednesday night before this class there will be a casual "Meet & Greet" at the Marriott Courtyard starting at 7:00am and I will be attending this function to meet everyone that is traveling in from out of town and out of state.

Meet & Greet at the Marriott Courtyard...
http://www.autogeekonline.net/galler..._Greet_1a1.jpg



There will probably be a meet greet Thursday night after this project has been completed to celebrate!


:eat: :yes:

FrankS 06-30-2014 05:15 PM

Re: Sign-up: How to Wetsand & Buff a 1960 Glastron Fireflight
 
Sign me up Mike!

boomer1649 06-30-2014 06:04 PM

Re: Sign-up: How to Wetsand & Buff a 1960 Glastron Fireflight
 
Mike, sign me up. Den

SunnyDaze 06-30-2014 07:17 PM

Re: Sign-up: How to Wetsand & Buff a 1960 Glastron Fireflight
 
Sounds great, my Sundancer 320 (2005) blue hull needs wet sanding badly and I need to learn how asap!!

Since I live in Fort Lauderdale, I'll drive straight up the 28th..

Thanks

Barry G.

johnpingol 06-30-2014 08:33 PM

Re: Sign-up: How to Wetsand & Buff a 1960 Glastron Fireflight
 
Mike, I'm in.

Chris@AutoCleanse 06-30-2014 09:42 PM

Re: Sign-up: How to Wetsand & Buff a 1960 Glastron Fireflight
 
You skipped over me, you don't want me to come. Lol

Mike Phillips 07-01-2014 08:53 AM

Re: Sign-up: How to Wetsand & Buff a 1960 Glastron Fireflight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FrankS (Post 757)
Sign me up Mike!

You're on the list!


Quote:

Originally Posted by boomer1649 (Post 758)
Mike, sign me up. Den

You're on the list!



Quote:

Originally Posted by SunnyDaze (Post 759)

Sounds great, my Sundancer 320 (2005) blue hull needs wet sanding badly and I need to learn how asap!!

Since I live in Fort Lauderdale, I'll drive straight up the 28th..

Thanks

Barry G.


You're on the list Barry. I'm confident that you're going to like this project. It is SO MUCH FASTER to machine sand off years of oxidation and then simply buff out your sanding marks than it is to try to compound off years of oxidation using a rotary buffer.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris@AutoCleanse (Post 761)

You skipped over me, you don't want me to come. Lol

You're on the list!


:thumb:

Mike Phillips 07-01-2014 10:14 AM

Re: Sign-up: How to Wetsand & Buff a 1960 Glastron Fireflight
 
***Update***


Rick, the owner of ChrisCraftCatalinaClub.com just sent me an e-mail to let me know he'll be attending this class.


Pretty Cool Rick, we'll be sure to have plenty of sanding and buffing for you to help with...


:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

Kajunstick 07-01-2014 06:04 PM

Re: Sign-up: How to Wetsand & Buff a 1960 Glastron Fireflight
 
Sign me up!

Mike Phillips 07-02-2014 07:22 AM

Re: Sign-up: How to Wetsand & Buff a 1960 Glastron Fireflight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kajunstick (Post 764)

Sign me up!


You're on the list!


:)

antti@561detailing 07-02-2014 08:56 AM

Re: Sign-up: How to wetsand, cut and buff a boat class
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike.Phillips@Marine31 (Post 755)
Thursday, August 28th

Normally I start these classes at 5:00pm and go to around 9:00pm to 10:00pm depending upon how many people attend, how bad the boat is and how big the boat is.


Because this project will be shown on Ship Shape TV a few weeks after we do the work on the project it's important to have enough time to do the job right without rushing.

For these reasons I'm going to plan on starting this project at 9:00am

I don't want to cut our selves short plus this way there's plenty of hands-on time for everyone that attends.

There's no substitute for hands-on experience. At our last boat detailing project we had a young man by the name John all the way from his home country of India attend our class to learn these skills.

http://www.marine31online.com/galler...a_To_India.jpg


How to wetsand, cut and buff a gel-coat boat


John machine wetsanding the side of a boat hull using the Rupes Duetto with Rupes #3000 grit sanding discs.
http://www.marine31online.com/galler...t_Boat_009.jpg

http://www.marine31online.com/galler...t_Boat_010.jpg




So clear your schedule and make your travel arrangements to be here on August 28th.



:)

Mike,

first post says we start 2pm and this one 9 am.

I assume it's 9am?

johnpingol 07-02-2014 09:15 AM

Re: Sign-up: How to Wetsand & Buff a 1960 Glastron Fireflight
 
Mike, Sign me up.

Mike Phillips 07-02-2014 12:01 PM

Re: Sign-up: How to Wetsand & Buff a 1960 Glastron Fireflight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnpingol (Post 767)
Mike, Sign me up.


Thanks John!


You're on the list!


:thumb:

Craig b 07-03-2014 01:00 AM

Re: Sign-up: How to Wetsand & Buff a 1960 Glastron Fireflight
 
Sign me up. Nice looking boat!
Craig

Mike Phillips 07-03-2014 08:32 AM

Re: Sign-up: How to Wetsand & Buff a 1960 Glastron Fireflight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig b (Post 769)
Sign me up. Nice looking boat!
Craig


You're on the list Craig!


:thumb:

Mike Phillips 07-09-2014 01:27 PM

Re: Sign-up: How to Wetsand & Buff a 1960 Glastron Fireflight
 
***Bump***


Just a reminder this project is coming up in August.


:smiley-fish:

kinder car care 07-09-2014 01:56 PM

Re: Sign-up: How to Wetsand & Buff a 1960 Glastron Fireflight
 
Would love to be there!!! One day I will book me a flight to attend one!

Are you going to be able to have this on you-tube like you do some of the auto make overs?

Mike Phillips 07-10-2014 11:47 AM

Re: Sign-up: How to Wetsand & Buff a 1960 Glastron Fireflight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kinder car care (Post 801)
Would love to be there!!! One day I will book me a flight to attend one!

Are you going to be able to have this on you-tube like you do some of the auto make overs?


At this time I'm not sure. It's possible but to be honest I'm really not sure.

I'd love to have Yancy be able to capture this process at the same time Ship Shape is recording.


:)

Mike Phillips 07-17-2014 08:47 AM

Re: Sign-up: How to Wetsand & Buff a 1960 Glastron Fireflight
 
***Bumpity bumpity bump***


Just a reminder this chance of a lifetime project is coming up in about 5 weeks.


:wow:

kinder car care 07-17-2014 09:06 AM

Re: Sign-up: How to Wetsand & Buff a 1960 Glastron Fireflight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike.Phillips@Marine31 (Post 809)
At this time I'm not sure. It's possible but to be honest I'm really not sure.

I'd love to have Yancy be able to capture this process at the same time Ship Shape is recording.


:)

That would be great to have Yancy but it up on live and even better to have it posted up on here for all to be able to watch at any time.

Thanks

ScarabEpic22 07-18-2014 08:36 PM

Re: Sign-up: How to Wetsand & Buff a 1960 Glastron Fireflight
 
Doesnt look like I'll be able to make it down, really bummed but just not in possible with my schedule.

Look forward to seeing the results on the forum!

Mike Phillips 07-21-2014 10:53 AM

Re: Sign-up: How to Wetsand & Buff a 1960 Glastron Fireflight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScarabEpic22 (Post 833)

Doesnt look like I'll be able to make it down, really bummed but just not in possible with my schedule.

Look forward to seeing the results on the forum!



I'll be posting plenty of pictures for this project and there should hopefully be some extended vidoe footage besides the portions filmed for Ship Shape TV.


:)

Mike Phillips 07-22-2014 11:41 AM

Re: Sign-up: How to Wetsand & Buff a 1960 Glastron Fireflight
 
***List Update***

Just adding two local guys that stopped by the shop today to sign-up.


Dave
Stephen



:thumb:

Markm 07-25-2014 12:50 AM

Re: Sign-up: How to Wetsand & Buff a 1960 Glastron Fireflight
 
Mike, Can you sign me up?

Thanks,

Mike Phillips 07-28-2014 12:25 PM

Re: Sign-up: How to Wetsand & Buff a 1960 Glastron Fireflight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Markm (Post 846)

Mike, Can you sign me up?

Thanks,


Hi Mark,

I've added you to the list. Apologies for any delay, myself and a few co-workers were in Kentucky working on a 1974 Plymouth Satelite Sebring with Dennis Gage for "My Classic Car".

http://www.marine31online.com/galler...p_Shot_003.jpg

Rick Mennine 07-28-2014 02:27 PM

Re: Sign-up: How to Wetsand & Buff a 1960 Glastron Fireflight
 
Hi , I would love to be part of the wet sanding project . Thanks guys

Mike Phillips 07-28-2014 02:29 PM

Re: Sign-up: How to Wetsand & Buff a 1960 Glastron Fireflight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Mennine (Post 860)
Hi , I would love to be part of the wet sanding project . Thanks guys


Hi Rick,

I've added your name to the list.


:thumb:


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